I think I'm going to risk everything and move to California

"No, I don't thank you for the fish at all" (notindetroit) 06/14/2015 at 21:06 • Filed to: None

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Because I’m so miserable being stuck where I am right now that I think I’d rather die in a ditch homeless in LA or nearabouts because dying homeless in a ditch is frankly better than being stuck here anyway.

Milky > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 21:09

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You could always move into Detroit. For the same price as that LA ditch you can get a pretty decent apartment.

TheOnelectronic > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 21:13

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You could also move somewhere that isn’t a terrible place full of terrible people, congested roads, and totalitarian automotive regulation.

But I may be heavily biased since I tried to come down the PCH on a sunday in August.

What about LA appeals to you? What about your current location do you hate?

mcseanerson > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 21:13

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What’s in California?

TheHondaBro > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 21:14

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California is an expensive place to live. Oregon isn't.

Needmoargarage > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 21:15

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As a California native recently displaced to Detroit Metro...don’t. Living in LA is pretty terrible. Actually, living in California is pretty terrible in general, apart from warm weather.

Steve in Manhattan > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 21:19

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Lived in DC, hated DC, moved to Manhattan at about age 40. Mostly it has worked. You should live where you think you can get the most accomplished.

And sure - LA means earthquakes, mudslides, wildfires, and droughts. But shit happens. And Manhattan means crowding, living in 1/3 the space I used to, not owning a car, and other inconveniences. But there are great delis, great museums, a big park, and on and on. If LA is where you have to be, you’ll find the good things. Start with Musso & Frank’s .

MLGCarGuy > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 21:21

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LA is too expensive, go to a different place in California if you really like California.

CRider > Milky 06/14/2015 at 21:26

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“Pretty decent apartment” in Detroit probably looks a lot like a LA ditch.

FlimFlamMan > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 21:26

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I would highly recommend securing a job before you head out there (otherwise have a ton of money saved up). The job market in LA is flooded with talent, and many employers out there take advantage of that by lowering the starting wages. The cost of living is expensive out there.

It is not all it is cranked up to be. Sure.... the weather is awesome and there are a lot of cool things to do out there, but good grief it can be tough to get by unless you have a very good paying job.

I know a lot of people out there that want to move out, but are stuck. I know some people that got out and moved to central US cities and are much happier nowadays. I really liked it out there. Met some super people. It’s just for the long term, it wasn’t the place for us to be. If you have the need for warmer weather then look somewhere else if possible. We moved to Florida and really like it down here (it’s not as bad as people on the internet make it out to be).

Good luck!

CRider > TheOnelectronic 06/14/2015 at 21:32

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I take that as a personal insult and have marked your name.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 21:33

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Oh my don’t go to LA! I live in SF, LA is just awful. San Diego is better if you want to go south. Maybe Oregon or Washington is better, they have water.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Needmoargarage 06/14/2015 at 21:34

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Its very different here in SF, I hate LA

TheOnelectronic > CRider 06/14/2015 at 21:42

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It’s okay, in my experience Californians instantly freeze to death if they come out here. Even during the summer.

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 21:43

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If you are going to California, go to northern california. IMO, everything south of Monterrey is just shit.

Needmoargarage > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 06/14/2015 at 21:47

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True. Bay Area is pretty enjoyable if you're up for the cost of living. My parents recently bought a house up there.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Needmoargarage 06/14/2015 at 21:49

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Yeah its gotten worse for sure. But with what I do I would have to be here, Vegas or So Cal. SO I pick here!

jkm7680 > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 21:53

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Cali has a high cost of living. My only input is that you don’t move to DC. This place sucks hard asshole.

Needmoargarage > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 06/14/2015 at 21:56

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Good choice! What industry do you work in if you don't mind me asking?

this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 22:02

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Idk, I hear dehydration is a pretty shitty way to go. Do what all the Californians are doing and come to Seattle!

Destructive Tester > Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) 06/14/2015 at 22:02

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I’d have to second this, I was just in Santa Cruz last month (first time in the state north of LA) and it was the first time I haven’t hated being in the state...

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 22:06

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Having moved from the Midwest myself years ago, go somewhere. I don’t like to tell this to people, but Oregon is pretty fantastic (don’t need it getting overpopulated).

CRider > TheOnelectronic 06/14/2015 at 22:21

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You can’t freeze if there’s no moisture in your body. CHECKMATE, NORTHERNERS!

SlickMcRick > jkm7680 06/14/2015 at 22:25

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MD is pretty decent. Anywhere but Baltimore seems solid.

jkm7680 > SlickMcRick 06/14/2015 at 22:27

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MD is. Baltimore is a different page of the book. Actually, it’s a different fucking book.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Needmoargarage 06/14/2015 at 22:32

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I’m in the Union that does all the shows, like auto shows, Google, Apple, Oracle.... tons of them. We do everything from booth construction to graphics.

Milky > CRider 06/14/2015 at 22:55

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LOLOL

^loft thats affordable on a college budget.

SlickMcRick > jkm7680 06/14/2015 at 22:55

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Only good area is the inner harbor. If it wasn’t for the Aquarium I’d possibly never venture there. The disparity in the quality of life between the city and county is mind-boggling. I couldn’t believe I was still in Baltimore with the nice homes and luscious green scenery that graced my eyes.

jkm7680 > SlickMcRick 06/14/2015 at 23:01

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I basically never go to Baltimore, haha.

SlickMcRick > jkm7680 06/14/2015 at 23:10

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Born and raised in DC/MD. In my short 25 years I’ve probably been to Baltimore 12 times total. Went to their car show once because I missed the one in DC.... NEVER AGAIN. Disorganized and trash all over the place.

jkm7680 > SlickMcRick 06/14/2015 at 23:18

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I’m a DC area transplant from Louisiana. The DC area is not my cup of tea for sure, haha. Every day I try to make my way out of here...........

wiffleballtony > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 23:22

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If you want all the style, glamour and arrogance of LA without the stupid cost of living and totalitarian regime of CA, fo to Scottsdale, Az. It does get a bit warm (4 months out of the year), but that’s why we have AC.

Sneaky Pete > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 23:28

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It’s obvious you’ve never been to LA. It’s a shithole. Die homeless in Santa Barbara or somewhere else.

LtotheG > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 23:29

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I lived in Philly for 2.5 years before I moved to SoCal (Long Beach) where I’ve been for 2 years. I’m originally from NorCal and believe me SoCal is shit. Weather is the only redeeming factor otherwise this place plain sucks. Snooty, backstabbing people. Terrible traffic anywhere with ongoing road repairs that never end. Not to mention the high cost of living

Sneaky Pete > Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) 06/14/2015 at 23:30

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Never been to Santa Barbara or San Diego, I see.

TheHondaBro > mcseanerson 06/14/2015 at 23:35

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The letters “A” “L” “I” “F” “O” “R” and “N.”

Chasaboo > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/14/2015 at 23:36

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Ha! I love all the LA hate. Keep it coming. I work in television. Love it here.

SlickMcRick > jkm7680 06/14/2015 at 23:43

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And I’m trying to make my way down south. The only good thing about the DC area is the nightlife and the lack of natural disasters. Seriously. Every other region of the country seems to have wild weather and we get spared. No droughts, mudslides, serious blizzards, flooding, tornadoes, earthquakes nor hurricanes. It’s honestly the best perk of the area.

jester74 > SlickMcRick 06/14/2015 at 23:58

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Baltimore is a festering shithole.

mcseanerson > Milky 06/15/2015 at 00:06

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Cleveland’s the same way. Long as you can get a job you can get a pretty ritzy place.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Milky 06/15/2015 at 00:47

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WAT

Milky > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 06/15/2015 at 01:14

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Damn the only one available now is expensive. But we had a 3bdrm that we converted to a 4 bdrm for $1,700/month.

http://jonna-detroitlofts.com/new-amsterdam-…

Photo from their site …. the memories.

TheOnelectronic > CRider 06/15/2015 at 01:44

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DAMMIT.

DipodomysDeserti > SlickMcRick 06/15/2015 at 01:53

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I get none of that in Phoenix and I never have to worry about riots, or a terrorist attack.

samssun > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/15/2015 at 02:29

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Sadly California has done all it can the past couple decades to negate its many natural benefits. “Go west young man” has basically been replaced by “go south young man” in terms of opportunity.

Pick pretty much any midsize city except maybe New Orleans or Memphis and you’re sure to have a blast. Clearwater/Tampa, Atlanta, Nashville, Columbia, Raleigh-Durham, Charlotte...or Dallas, San Antonio, KC or OKC if you don't want the south proper.

orcim > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 06/15/2015 at 03:57

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Trade show support. Did that for a year for Sun Microsystems early on, prolly knocked 5 years off my life. Nothing like having a gravity center of about 18,000 feet above Denver to find out just how silly it all can get.

orcim > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all 06/15/2015 at 04:05

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Listen, there’s lots of opinions out there about whether LA or wherever is good, cost effective, etc. What you need to choose is whether you need a change or not and it sounds like you do. Why do I support changing? *Because you can **always** change again!* Or go back. Or die. Or something.

Left Colorado (brilliant place to live) and moved to Mpls. Left there for northern CA. Left there for Hawaii. Each time, I left almost everything I’d built, made, etc. to do the new thing, most times without knowing spit about what I’d be doing. None of them were perfect, none of them were permanent, *all* of them were interesting to what I have become. Wouldn’t change a single thing.

Do what you need to do. Sometimes, optimizing for ‘perfect’ gets in the way of learning so you can never move. You’re driving this bus. We’re all just the passengers in the back screaming at you. Smile, and turn if it’s the right thing.

Rico > Chasaboo 06/15/2015 at 10:24

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I don’t get all the LA hate. I went out there for my first time 2 years ago and compared to NYC where I am now, it was a dream. Cost of living expensive? Eh I put it on par with NYC except you definitely get more bang for your buck even if it is due to the weather. I don’t know but I loved every minute of it while I was there and visited a shit load of places that were all equally great.

Maybe some people are spoiled by low prices, lack of homeless people, and super friendly people where they live. These are luxuries I don’t have in NYC so Cali was a step up, plus legal bud.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > orcim 06/15/2015 at 12:17

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I have been rigging a lot lately but I have had a few weeks at one of the companies on the CNC machine so I will have to see if they bring me in for that on a regular basis. Being at the show most of the time gets tiring, long hours, but then you get into double time so I can’t really complain. I get more time off that way.